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How Much Gas Waste Can Be Stored in a 1/4 Inch Hose?

The volume of shielding gas wasted every time the torch trigger is pulled can be 6 times the physical shielding gas delivery hose volume from source to feeder/welder. 

 HOW?

THE EFFECT OF PRESSURE ON GAS VOLUME

Consider an Argon gas cylinder.  One holding 310 Cubic Feet (CF) of Argon (measured at Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP); that's what you pay for) has only 1.8 CF of physical internal volume.  How does it hold all that gas?  Because of the increased pressure over atmospheric. 

The volume of gas in the cylinder at STP is directly proportional to the absolute pressure.  At 2500 psi = 2515 psia (psia = absolute pressure. That is the gauge reading +14.7 psi at sea level.) Therefore the volume will be 2515/14.7 or 171 x 1.8 (physical) CF = 310 CF of gas at STP. 

Interesting fact - At full cylinder pressure Argon is still a gas but it's actually pretty heavy!  (310 CF weights about 31 pounds.)  When the gas is contained in the 1.8 CF cylinder it's about 30% the density of water! 

Therefore when the shielding gas delivery hose is pressurized it holds much more gas than the actual internal physical volume of the hose.  How much more depends on the pressure.

 

WHAT IS OCCURRING IN THE GAS DELIVERY HOSE FROM THE FLOW CONTROL AT THE GAS SUPPLY TO THE FLOW CONTROL SOLENOID?

This schematic presents the volume of extra gas in the gas delivery hose.  The "bar graph" is shown as Red and Blue bars above the Green gas delivery hose.  Area in Blue represents the extra volume of gas in the hose over the physical volume due to the ~ 5 psi need to flow the required amount of gas when welding.  The flow control (needle valve or  orifice) creates the lower pressure when welding.  The Area in Red shows the amount that can be excess due to the pressure in the gas delivery hose over the ~ 5 psi when welding stops.  This higher pressure is set by the regulator/flowmeter; regulator/flowgauge or pipeline pressure.  The Blue and Red areas are sized relative to the hose area shown in Green to provide proper perspective.

How Does The Pressure Get That High?

A restriction orifice or a needle valve is used to control shielding gas flow.  With Regulator/Flowmeters (Photo Below Left) outlet pressures range from 25 to 80 psi.  For CO2 shielding 80 psi is used to help prevent ice formation.  Flowmeters used on pipelines allow pipeline pressure to exit the flow control valve when welding stops.  A typical  pipeline pressures 50 psi. 

Flowgauge/Regulators (Photo  Right) operate by setting a pressure above a critical orifice (a very small hole).  For most MIG shielding gas flow rates the pressure exiting the control orifice when welding stops will range from 40 to 70 psi.

However the pressure needed at the feeder to flow the shielding gas though the solenoid, fittings and torch can range 3 to 8 psi depending on torch length and restrictions.  When welding is stopped, gas continues to flow through the needle valve or critical orifice and  increases in the gas delivery hose to that of the regulator output or pipeline. Therefore the pressure in the gas delivery hose will be about 25/3 = 8   to 80/3 = 26 times the pressure needed to flow the desired amount of gas!  For Flowgauge/Regulators 13 to 23 times what may be needed! 

HOSE EXPANSION

We have been asked about the effect of hose expansion on the extra volume of stored gas when welding stops.  Making measurements of a relatively heavy wall (0.093 inch wall, 1/4 inch ID) commercial gas delivery hose we obtained the following data:

When welding stopped, using a CO2 80 psi regulator/ flowmeter, the hose expanded 13% in volume.  Therefore in this case 87% of the excess gas in the hose is due to the increased pressure and the additional 13% due to the hose expanding.  In total the excess gas waste (most of which is wasted with each torch pull) = about 6 times the physical hose volume!

Note: with the Gas Saver System the excess is reduced by about 80% and there is very slight hose expansion since that hose has a very heavy wall to diameter ratio and is fiber reinforced.

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BOTTOM LINE

The amount of gas in a hose depends on the pressure.  For some regulator/flowmeters and many regulator flowgauges (those that have a pressure gauge reading cubic feet per hour, CFH) can cause a pressure of 80 psi in the hose when welding stops. Therefore the volume of gas in the hose is (80+15)/15 = 6.3 times the hose volume.  Accounting for the hose expansion that can be an extra 13% or 6.3 x 1.13 = 7.1 times the hose volume. Therefore the gas waste created every time the torch trigger is pulled is much more than the hose volume would indicate.   Our patented Gas Saver System reduces the amount of excess by 80%!

CAUTION!  The high pressure in the gas delivery system is designed to provide automatic flow compensation (along with other benefits) - lowering the pressure defeats this very important feature.  Higher pressure is needed to maintain the automatic control of gas flow when restrictions in the gas hose, torch cable and torch nozzle occur in production.  See this link for an explanation. 

That's why system pressures were designed that way since the invention of TIG and MIG welding!!  See high pressures are a "Good Thing."

Why is most MIG gas delivery hose 1/4 inch ID?  Hint; it's not for the very low pressure drop at the low flow rates used! CLICK to SEE WHY.

 

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( * US Patent  # 6,610,957;  "Welding Shielding Gas Saver Device" August 26, 2003,  Patent Pending in other countries)   Other site material presented may be covered under 2006 issued US Patents # 7,015,412 or # 7,019,248 or may be Patent Pending.
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